Prior to and after leaving the seminary (Lutheran)I became disillusioned with the church as a vehicle for change. Having met Saul Alinsky during college I was fascinated with him & his approach to organizing. Though he died before I could see him in Chicago. I was introduced to Tom Gaudette who directed me to Shel Trapp, though the two of them were estranged at the the time. Shel became my mentor & boss. I learned more about community organizing and coalition building from Shel than any other graduate degree could have taught me.